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oh, i'm running a little late, i better go. taxi! taxi! this is a cnn special report. we're following a number of big stories for you at this hour. in south korea, the search for survivo survivors. sounds from the ships as the crew sounded a warning about what was happening by air and my sea, a new search day is under way off the coast of australia for malaysia airlines flight 370. but potential trouble is looming. a cyclone is circulating nearby. we'll be live from perth coming up. but first, we begin with breaking news out of yemen where a government official tells cnn massive and unprecedented air strikes targeting al qaeda in
the arabian peninsula have killed at least 30 militants. this comes just days after cnn aired this video showing al qaeda leaders ly meeting out in the open. the drone strikes took place in the area where this was shot. today's raid was a joint u.s.-yemen operation. he would not confirm if drones were used, but the u.s. is the only country known to carry out drone strikes in yemen and the pentagon typically doesn't acknowledge them. cnn's mohammed jan joong is on the line with us. and peter bergman. these attacks, we're talking about two days of these now. are they still going on and is there any doubt these are u.s. drones? >> well, brianna, i just spoke with a source of mine in yemen a short while ago and confirmed to me that these attacks are indeed still going on. that's one of the reasons why
these attacks are being called unprecedented. they're so massive as far as their scale. these attacks in a hot bed for militants in yemen, they started over 20 hours ago at this point. they're still going on. we're told now that a yemen commandos are actually on the ground in another province going after high value targets on the ground there. it's clear that the yemeni government is responding to 24 that was released last week. that tape was clearly an embarrassment to both the u.s. and the yemeni government. they spent so much time and so many resources trying to vanquish aqap in yemen, km is such a threat not just to the middle east but to the u.s. as well. now as the operation is still going on, we don't know how long it will last. but at this stage, we've been told that at least 30 people, at least 30 militants today were killed.
in yesterday's operation in which it was acknowledged drones were used, ten people were killed. and the yemeni government is saying they're going to go after these targets in a way they haven't in the past. this is very rugged, mountainous, dangerous terrain. so it is surprising the commanders are actually there. as far as how much the u.s. is involved, we've been told the cia has helped plan these operations, but there are no u.s. personnel there on the ground at this hour. >> tell me a little bit about whether we know exactly who was targeted? or is that just going to be tbd? >> that's very much tbd that the hour. we know that there are high value targets that the yems, ma' ma'am -- yemeni government has been trying to kill or capture that are based in these regions. people, like asiri, who was the top bomb maker in in the yemeniaqap. he's a saudi national. we know that there are foreign
nationals that have been killed in if these strikes. foreign members of aqap. but as far as any details as to who has been killed, which high value targets are going after at this hour, we sdoebt know. and even if there are a lot of rumors right now that high-value targets have been killed, it would take several days and any confirmation before we would know if these targets have indeed either been killed or were going to be captured. >> so several days. we will be waiting for that. mohammad, going to turn to peter now. peter, you heard mo ham maed say it was an embarrassment for the u.s. to say aqap just being so bold and being right out there. but why would aqap put this video out there in a way? didn't it just sort of make them sitting ducks sort of begging for an attack like this? >> well, i think you're right. we've known for the past year that al qaeda in yemen is trying to be a little more circumspect,
communicating, you know, senior leadership communicating by currier as well as over the internet. this kind of public gathering flies in the face of this. it's sort of puzzling why they would do this. and clearly based on the events of this weekend, it may have been a bridge too far. it may have been a risk for them to have done this kind of very public gathering since, you know, we're not -- these strikes are quite unusual. we've seen strikes before in the past where they might happen, you know, on sequential days. sometimes even on the same day. but to see this level of strikes within the space of a weekend is pretty unusual. >> you see this pretty much as a message coming from the u.s. if you're going to flex your muscle, then we are going to take drastic action to make sure that you can't? >> yeah, it could be a message. or it could be we gathered a
great deal of information when they made this video. it's hard to tell. the fact that cnn released this video surely was a little embarrassing to all concerned. and no one likes to have their homework, you know, publicly judged. and so, you know, you might make the inference that this has encouraged some kind of action by either the yemenese or the united states government or both. or you could say hey, this video spoke for itself. there was a lot of of information about who was gathering where. and action was taken. >> it's certainly alarming to see pictures like this. we haven't seen in quite some time. thanks for joining us. now, in south korea, millions of people are desperately clinging to the slim chance that by some miracle, someone is still alive on the sunken ferry. realistic hope, however, is fading.
since the ship tipped over and sank with hundreds of people onboard, most of the passengers, teenagers on a high school trip. 64 people have been found by rescue divers. none of them alive. 238 people are still inside of that ferry. and i'm about to play for you the frantic radio conversation between the crew of the ship and boat traffic controllers on shore. this is what was happening when the ferry started listing, and someone had to make that call to abandon ship.
says the actions of the captain onboard were akin to murder. how far into the sunken ship are divers able to venture at this point? >> they are able to get pretty far into the ship. this is a very critical moment. at this hour, the divers are scheduled to be entering the ship and trying to reach the cafeteria on the third floor. this is the room where they suspect many of these young students were at the time the ferry sank. and so this could be a truly awful day out in the surf zone. we are on our way there right now. the search zone located about a 45-minute sail just west of us. we will be headed there as soon as we're finished with this live report. we're trying to stop the boat to make sure we have a stable signal out here. but i need to tell you, after watching this recovery effort yesterday, it was a heart wrenching thing to watch these divers who have so much hope they're going to find someone alive, go down into this ferry and instead only find people who
are dead. as you'll hear right now from the head of the diving operations, i spoke with him as he voiced his remorse. >> translator: finding survivors is the strong desire of the whole nation. it's the same as the missing people's families. we're all volunteers in the same position. we cry every day as we search for the missing people. hundreds of volunteer divers are focused on searching for survivors. we're willing to risk our lives for this. the currents underwater are so dangerous. they're constantly shifting.
visibility is almost 0. if you get down ten meters, you can only see about 20 centime r centimeters in front of you. they're in this cold, dark water, searching, hoping to find someone alive. and yet over and over again, they're finding more. and today could be a very tough day with those divers heading towards that cafeteria and the ship. >> where they believe so many people, bodies may be. can you tell us, do they have any idea how long it could take to recover all of the missing people? >> it's proving to be very gruelling work. although as you can see by the sunny conditions right now, the weather has improved from what we saw in previous days here off of jindo, korea. and so the divers, they had been putting ropes into the shifts and that's helping guide them through the dark hallways. the conditions were so choppy earlier in the week, the ropes were actually coming loose. but yesterday and today are the first time the ropes are staying in place, which could allow the divers to make more progress. but you can imagine, just the
physical toll that it takes to pull somebody out of that ship, swim all the way back to the hallways and get back to the surface. they can only stay down there for about an hour at a time before they have to let the next crew take over, otherwise they'll get too kpoous exhausted. >> here to help us better understand the difficulties and challenges that these divers are up against is former navy submarine officer david jordan. he's co-founder and president of nauticos. he's led search expeditions for ameal e amelia earhart's plane. the big question here, david, is there a possibility that anyone still may be alive? do you think that's a possibility? >> it's very unlikely. there's a story actually just back in december of a nigerian cook who was found after two days under water in a capsized
vessel e and the divers were in a similar situation searching for bodies and were incredibly surprised to come across a live person. but that was only two days and that was quite remarkable. even at these relatively shall dshallow depth, it's a very difficult condition to survive in more more than a short period of time. it's pretty unlikely and i think the divers' job as has been described is really quite a sad job. >> a very sad job. and also a technically very difficult job, right? if you are to dive around a ship wreck, there's the possibility of entrapment. you can't stay down that long. what are these divers up against as they do this terribly sad job?
>> they mentioned fatigue. but it's your body's ability to stay under water under pressure for longer periods of time. at some point you become a saturation condition where you have to decompress for a period of time before you can come to the surface because the nitrogen in the air becomes infused in your body and it's very dangerous to come up quickly after a short period of time. so there are physiological limits to how long they can stay under water. an they're racing against the clock as they're trying to maneuver their way these dark quarters. so everything is inverted or at some funny angle. divers are incredible people who have to deal with quite a large combination of factors.
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deep below the surface the bluefin 21 robotic sub has wrapped up an eighth day of work scouring the ocean floor. they admit every passing day the search is becoming more and more difficult. did bluefin turn up anything at all in mission number eight now? >> the mission ended a couple of hours ago. sadly, the data showed the same result as the previous 7, that is no sign of malaysia flight 370. a ninth scan of the ocean floor will start in the next few hours. the focus still very much on that six square mile radius around where the second acoustic sound searchers hope was from one of those black boxes was picked up. that was back on april 8.
the eight bluefin missions so far have covered about 2/3 of that area. now, it is an important week. the acting malaysian transport minister saying the searchers reached in his words a critical juncture. both he and the australian prime minister say the current search area will have been picked over in the next few days. despite no sign of the missing plane, the search leaders do, though, still feel this area is their best shot at finding the plane and those who were onboard. as you said, the sea search from air and on the ocean continues. but surely, that's going to have to wind up soon. they found nothing. and you mentioned there, cyclsce jack, in the u.s. we call it hurricane. hurricane jack northwest of the search area, not niekly to make a direct hit, but weather and sea conditions are expected to be impacted. >> it doesn't have to be a direct hit, really anything sflint. thanks so much for the latest on
that. so much frustration and anticipation that the bluefin mission could bring an end to this mystery. aviation analyst, former pilot with british royal air force, aviation analyst mary schiavo, former inspector general, and former navy submarine officer david jordan, he is co-founder and president of the deep ocean exploration company natunautiko. >> can you imagine this search comes up empty and years later we find out what happened? >> we can. if we look back to air force 447, it took two years to find the black boxes. we're in day 45 as you pointed out. i think our expectations should be set for the long haul. if we look at the blue finer it's on its eighth mission. this is a critical phase, but i think there have been a number of critical phases given the lack of evidence we've had.
there's been updates that pulled us into the location. and then there's be the discovery of the pings and then the fight against the time line of the batteries going dead. i think that was a critical part of the investigation as well. so yes, this is another critical part of the investigation. and there will be other critical parts of the investigation going forward. but i think the language that the deputy used is not helpful in terms of the way that he's sort of zoned in on this critical aspect. 24rr a number of critical aspects to this investigation, and we should be setting ourselves for the long haul. >> yeah, certainly. and i think a lot of people are drawing comparisons with that air france flight. david, to you. the oceans obviously are gigantic. they're massive. but i think a lot of people were surprised to learn that this is an area that really has not been mapped. we know some of it has been because of the sonar scan of the bluefin 21. but do you think we'll have get to a point where it's easier to map the ocean and much of the
ocean floor will be mapped or is a lot of this going to be a mystery forever? >> i think this endeavor here is maybe putting a little perspective on the problem. we're talking about being some 2/3 through these eight missions. we're talking about hundreds of square miles maybe at most being covered by the blue fin out of many thousands of square miles of uncertainty in where this plane went down. and, in fact, there are areas the size of modest states like pennsylvania or nebraska that have not been touched in that area of the ocean. and those are 10,000 square miles. so the bluefin is covering an infi tez mali smart area of the sea floor. and the likelihood that it will succeed is small. what is likely to happen is that after these missions are finished, there will be a period
of consideration of all the data and some thought about where the asset should really be deployed and whether the bluefine is even able to search at the depth that is necessary. and then i think at some time in the future, if the hopowers tha be want to continue this effort, which i hope they will, then a more serious effort will be made to find this plane. >> yeah. and mary, you kind of don't want to think of this possibility, but we have to, behind the scene, do you think that investigators are prepared for the worst? for this possibility that we will never find out what happened to flight 370? >> well, i think the leadership probably is. the people out in the field searching the ocean and running the blue fin are focused on that mission. and that requires them to search those areas very thoroughly. but i'm sure angus houston and the malaysian officials are planning what the next step, or what their plan b will be, buz
if this does, if these particular search areas, the limited search areas, do not turn up the plane, then they're going to have to go back to the inmarsat data and make sense of the many, many conflicting reports of radar data out of malaiysia and indonesia and othr places and try to make sense of those and see if there are not new search areas that can be opened with better analysis or maybe more cooperation from governments in terms of their radar information. >> all right, mary, david, michael, stick with us. we want to talk to all of you again in just a few minutes. another story we'll be talking about, though, a few weeks ago, a lot of people couldn't even find ukraine on a map. now that country threatens to reunite a new area of hostility between u.s. and russia. and there was no peace on easter sunday. why relocating manufacturingpany to upstate new york? i tell people it's for the climate. the conditions in new york state are great for business.
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lead is steven cohen, professor emeritus of russian studies at new york university. professor, thanks so much for being with us. and is there really any chance here for peace? or do you see these incidents to be just the beginning of greater turmoil? >> i think they're the result of greater turmoil which has been under way in ukraine since november. and the protest against the elected president of ukraine formed in kiev. we all remembered what happened, peaceful protests became violent in the streets. he was overthrown, he fled. a new government was formed and then the focus shifted to eastern ukraine, which is largely pro russian. that's what we're watching now. the problem here is a lot of tails wagging the dog. the dog being east-west relations and the possibility of war. these violent episodes at checkpoints, snipers, young
toughs wearing masks, we don't know where they are, armed militia roaming the lands both in the east and the west, and it's not clear that russia can control these developments or that kiev, which is backed by the united states and europe can control those developments in western ukraine. i think we're on the cusp of civil war in ukraine, regardless of what russia and the united states might decide. >> so being on the cusp there of civil war, what can the u.s. do, if anything? are there any options? >> well, i think there are. after all, russia, the west, ukraine and europe met in geneva last week and they agreed toen a few things. now, they're not easily achieved, but there is this american adage, where there's a will there's a way. the question is, how much will there really is. they agreed, for example, these militias need to be disarmed. they agreed that the violence needs to stop. agree that there needs to be a new ukrainian constitution that represents the will of the people. none of these are being
implemented. here's the danger. there are so many trip waters, all of these tails wagging the dog and i fear, and i never thought i would say this, that one could imagine the possibility of war between the west and russia. not just ukrainian civil war. but if there's a ukrainian civil war, russian troops are likely to cross into ukraine from russia. nato troops, which are on the move as we talk into eastern europe, may cross into ukraine from the west, across the polish border. and then the western russia, the united states and russia will be eyeball to eyeball in a way we have not been since i was young during the cuban missile crisis in the 1960s. and who would have imagined such an outcome? but that's where we could be heading. >> yeah, and you can see how some of these provocations could smierl out of control. you talk about harkening back to the cold war, to the soviet union. one of the things we just heard from the prime minister of ukraine was saying this is what vladimir putin wants. he's staging a return to the
days of the ussr. what do you think? >> i dismiss it as the propaganda on one side. here's one of the problems we have. russia is churning out its propaganda or misinformation, kiev is and washington is. listen to what "the new york times" reported on sunday, the obama administration has decided to write off putin as a leader and to go back to the old cold war policy of containment. they use that word. now, if that report is accurate, then given these sources, on the front page of the new york times that ott bama administration has decided on a old policy of containment towards russia, that means that officially, officially we are back in cold war. we don't need the acting prime minister of ukraine to tell us that. president obama has told us that if "the new york times" report is accurate. >> yeah. it is the cusp of civil war, and it is also a big war of words.
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south korea's president calling the actions of the sunken ferry captain and crew, quote, akin to murder. south korea's coast guard saying two more female bodies have been recovered from the sunken ferry, raising the confirmed dead to 64. but that still leaves 238 missing, and most of them are high school students. even though no survivors have been found since the ship capsized and sank on wednesday, searchers are not giving up. more than 500 divers continue to plunge into the frigid dark waters of the yellow sea and more than 34 aircrafts and 200 ships are helping with the difficult search. now, each time that searchers bring a body of one of the ferry victims on shore, families must identify their loved ones. and with many of the dead so young, the effort is taking its toll on everyone. even veteran emergency workers. we have the latest from jindo, south korea.
>> the first police boat returns from the search site. parents waiting. >> they return one by one in identical white bags. behind the screen, initial inspection. a blanket to cover. then a short march back to land. parents rush to the white tents to identify their children. you must have said daddy save me, weeps this father. no one is immune to the sound of losing a child. [ crying ] >> as the families leave the tents, so, too, do the stretchers, emptied, returning to the gurneys that await the
next boat. another group of someone's children. another march back to the tents. 13 return in this group, but more than 200 are still missing. gurneys on the left side of the dock, divers board ships to the right to continue the search. to bring the rest home. cnn, jindo, south korea. >> searchers tell cnn thereby five pathways now cut into the hole of the ship. that means several points for access for divers so they can look for victims. >> well, we've heard a lot about heart broken families in malaysian airlines flight 370's passengers. the families of the plane's cabin crew are also facing emotional limbo. senior international
correspondent nick robertson spoke with the wife of a steward about her struggle to hold on. >> reporter: for the past six weeks, layla has been waiting. >> emotionally, it's up and down, you know? sometimes i'm okay. sometimes so-so. sometimes, always very sad. >> the worstmalaysia's prime mi said flight 370 ended in the sea. >> when we hear that they have ended there. >> reporter: her husband was one of the cabin crew. they met 19 years ago when she, too, was an air stewardess at malaysian airlines. a conversation they had a week before the fateful flight helps keep her going. >> i was telling him, we are going to celebrate our 10th anniversary this year. he was telling me, of course, the best for him.
and i was asking him, are we going to have next seven years together? of course. >> also helping her cope, their three children. >> they have faith their father will be coming back. >> two boys, 12 and 10 and a girl, just 8 years old. >> little one doesn't show emotion much in front of me. but for me, i'm trying to hide my emotions as much as i can. they try to cheer me up instead of i'm the one who have to cheer them. >> after six week, her hardest moments, finding a way to tell her children they may never see their father again. >> i was telling them also to accept if the father have gone forever. and they say they will try as much as how i can accept it.
>> in your heart what do you tell yourself? >> he's there. that's what i think of. he'll be there. wherever i go. whatever i do, he'll always be beside me. >> nothing could prepare a family for this -- waiting without knowing. a wife, a mother, coping one day at a time. >> although i smile, it's not from my heart. i'm smile because of, you know, i believe everybody was feeling the same. >> income robertson, cnn, kuala lump lumpur, malaysia. >> a desperate search and weeks later, no answers. is it time to rethink the search for flight 370? that's ahead. [ male announcer ] if you suffer from a dry mouth
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regroup, come up with fresh ideas. families want answers on this, the 45th day since the plane disappeared, carrying 239 people onboard. let's go ahead and bring back our panel to discus. michael kaye, schiavo as well as david jour ddon. how would you conduct the search? >> there are limitations. the air crew has been on a search for 45 days. that brings fatigue and the actual available crews that are conducting the search, as well as the airframes and the services. the longer these aircraft fly, the longer you have to ground them for in order to service them as the days and weeks and months go by. so there will have to be a reset because there isn't a hunl amount of resource, a limited
amount of resource in order to take this investigation further. so i think we're coming to a natural conclusion for a regroup and a reset. that doesn't mean the search is going to be called off. there's just going to be a reassess. . >> and david, when you're talking about the underwater search, how would you rethink that part of this? >> i think there's probably some information we don't know yet or haven't assimilated well yet. realize the bluefin asset is kind of a quick response capability. it's meant to get there and find something quickly. if you can't, then you really should take restock and consider what to do again. with maybe different assets. >> it's working at its limit. you can't be doing that all the time for days and days on end. >> there are some areas of the that part of the ocean that are deeper than the blue fin can go.
and there may be better assets that can be made available over time with a little more preparation. one of the things we haven't heard a whole lot of recently is the investigation into passenger and crew. we haven't seen conclusions there. what do you think about that? >> i think that probably was a secondary thought. i think the investigation and the malaysians focused right in on the pilot and co-pilot. if you real just a week into the investigation, they announced that it was a criminal investigation. a week into it, they said that everyone had been cleared except the pilot and co-pilot. then the united states fbi was looking at their computers and the flight simulator and said there's nothing unusual on there. we didn't find anything. then they went back and said everybody is a suspect. so i think at that point, they really did start looking at everyone. and there's a lot of work to be done. not just the backgrounds, or if
there are any problems or associations with criminal group, but any ability to fly a plane. >> yeah, 239 people. it is certainly a lot of work. michael, david, mary, thank you so much. appreciate you being with us. now for survivors of last year's marathon bombing, boston strong is more than a catch phrase. it really sums up their determination to prooif that no injury, physical or emotional can stop them from pursuing their dreams. we have that next. [ male announcer ] this is the cat that drank the milk... [ meows ] ...and let in the dog that woke the man who drove to the control room [ woman ] driverless mode engaged. find parking space. [ woman ] parking space found. [ male announcer ] ...that secured the data that directed the turbines that powered the farm that made the milk that went to the store
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the once slow-moving landslide has doubled in speed, split one home apart and is about the size of two football fields. it's threadening more homes and businesses. officials say it's unlikely the ground will collapse like last month's deadly landslide in washington state. the dragon is carrying supplies and equipment for the space station's crew. this is the third of 12 resupply missions under $1 .6 billion contract with nasa. dragon is expected back home in about a month, carrying equipment that's no longer needed at the space station. and now to another tragedy that left many of us asking why us?
and why now? the city of boston is preparing for its first marathon since the bombings that killed three people and wounded at least 264 others one year ago. and while many may be forever scarred, they're not broken. monday's marathon could be one of the biggest in boston's history. our poppi harlow has more. >> this is boston strong. i spent this ampfternoon with a woman who embodies that phrase. heather abbott is an incredible woman. she lost part of her left leg last year during the marathon bombing. and the last year that she has been recovering, it's been astounding to watch her progress. not only is she walking again, she's running again. she ran this weekend on saturday in a tribute race, and she's going to run the last half mile of the marathon tomorrow. >> this year for me, it's like a
new starting point. it's a day where i'm going to do the things i was supposed to do last year and didn't get to. it's sort of a celebration i think for me of all i've been able to accomplish this year. and a time to start new memories. >> one of the things weaths heas done is year she's helped other amputees. she's got certified as a peer counsel counselor. he sunss what it's like to go through this. she said that really helped her as well in her own recovery. boston strong indeed. and then our piece on heather as she crosses the finish line. you'll see our full story on heather abbott tomorrow night on "the situation room." brianna. >> poppy harlow, thanks so much. we'll be watching for that monday night at 10:00 eastern. cnn returns to boston to check on the lives of people made famous with photographers snapped their pictures a year ago on the day of the boston marathon bombing. hear how these people have put
their lives back together. that's back to boston moments of impact. monday night at 10:00 boxing's hurricane has died. he died from complications of prostate cancer on sunday. he was 76. his story, simply astonishing. the middleweight boxer spent 19 years in prison after being wrongfully convicted of a triple murder in 1966. he then became an activist for the wrongly convicted. after denzel washington portrayed carter in the 1999 movie "the hurricane." >> hurricane is the professional game i acquired later on in life. one thing i could do and the only thing was box. >> now washington who earned an academy award nomination for that performance issued a statement reading, god bless rubin cart earth and his
tireless fight to especially sure justice for all. carter's case also inspired the 1975 bob dylan song "hurricane." well, turner sports sideline reporter craig sager is battling leukemia. you might recognize sager at nba and mlb game, rocking his famous crazy suits. well, true to style, sager announced his illness with humor saying, quote, from the sidelines to being sidelines. 40 veins and 40 elect rrolytes. here's what happened when sager's son interviewed popp. >> he said son, you're on your own. anything you have to say? >> you did a great job, but i would rather have your dad standing here. you're great, we miss you. you've been an important part of
this for a long time. we want your fanny back on the court. i promise i'll be nice. get back here. >> craig, if your cnn family, our thoughts are with you. i'm brian that one of our roles here has always been to take away excess money from people who don't know what to do with it, who can't think of a better idea about how to spend their money. in the old days the mechanism for doing that was you'd throw it on a table. put that into the context of throwing away a bottle of seven-up in a club. we're slightly more honest about it. >> you're talking crass commercialism in the very best sense of the word. this is it. is it the cultural center of the